Monday, October 30th., 2017
(Part I was also posted on October 26th, in this Blog).
Transcript of Michael Salla, Cobra & Unknown Lightwarrior on Ground Crew Command: Part I & II
And
we're back! You're listening to Ground Crew Command Radio. This is the
Unknown Light Warrior and here we go folks! We've got Michael Salla and
Cobra both on the line and gentlemen thank you very much for setting
aside the time because we all know how much of a premium time is for all
of us now so Michael I want to start off with you I was watching your
DVD of your MUFON presentation in Vegas. Did I pronounce that correctly?
And I kept on watching it and although it didn't have anything new for
me personally and for a lot of us because some of us have gone quite
deep down the rabbit hole. One thing I did notice and really appreciate
is that you're very meticulous and heavy emphasis on proof we're talking
perfect sober grounded you know letter after letter document after
document that you were showing on your on your slides and it was then
that I really got and understood what Exopolitics Institute is really
all about and correct me on this later if I'm if I'm wrong or add to it
as you see fit but I noticed that this meticulous emphasis on proof of
whatever you can find I saw that that Exopolitics Institute really is
trying to legitimize ET existence in a perfectly 3D can't deny it kind
of way - and our relationship with them - to the unconscious mainstream.
Okay and this is something that websites like mine and Cobras would
struggle with, in my opinion, because we tend to present stuff that's
way deep down the rabbit hole that the unconscious mainstream
understandably isn't really able to accrete. It can't make such a
jump
and leap into such high levels of consciousness all at once and, you
know, although we all know so passé that ETS exist and so forth
nonetheless we also knew that the Cabal and the NSA has been spying on
us, right? We all knew this for many years and decades but look at the
impact when Snowden and that faction of the NSA went mainstream -went
public and mainstream - it still had a huge impact even though we
already knew about it, you know. It still did a lot for the unconscious
majority which is where the the trick is and so I don’t think I'm not
exaggerating at all in the saying that Exopolitics.org is really leading
the charge to wake up the unconscious majority in a way that people on
websites like mine and Cobra’s can't really because we put most of the
emphasis on the really deeper way down the rabbit hole kind of stuff you
know where yours is strictly physical 3D sober stuff so can you go
ahead and add what you want to add to that and tell us and the audience
what Exopolitics Institute is really all about and your goal.
MICHAEL SALLA
Right.
Well it is important that you know I emphasized that my background is
probably very different to Cobras and others that are interested in this
topic. I actually was teaching international politics at a major
university - I'm in the United States. When I got involved in this
material and found out that - after doing my due diligence I found out
that it was very real and I became excited by this as really a new field
of international politics - political science - and you know I really
wanted to convince my peers the people that I had worked with or
students that I had taught that this material was real. I didn't succeed
when I first introduced this. I actually did present this material in a
class at American University in 2001 and you know I didn’t persuade any
of students that this was real in fact out of a class of 25 students
who were kind of liberal progressives who had very kind of humanitarian
backgrounds in terms of what they had done before starting the graduate
degrees in conflict resolution - only two of the class of 25 thought
that the material that I had shown in terms of Stephen Greer's
Disclosure Project Press Conference was real so right there the
challenge as I saw it was to be able to persuade, as you said, the kind
of unconscious mainstream that this is very real and so my website
Exopolitics.org and the Exopolitics Institute that I created in 2005 -
you know, both of those are really trying to open up this material to a
kind of unconscious or unaware mainstream and I continue to address that
particular constituency.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Okay,
well I commend you and salute you for trying to show this stuff to the
rigidly left brain hemisphere orientated Academia - that's no mean feat.
And I take my hat off to you sincerely. That's not easy because they're
really - they're some of the most – this might ruffle a few feathers I
suppose
but I say this with all due respect – they’re some of the most
programmed people that have gone to the highest levels of academia and,
you know, David Icke would say there's a reason why the Cabal structured
academia in a way where it's strictly left hemisphere - again for
control – and, look, it's it's understandable. You know we've had… I
mean you must be watching very closely the White Hat takedown of Cabal
control of media, Hollywood, Academia, even NFL and sports according to
Ben Fulford’s sources and I know I'm quite confident that certainly the
alternative media particularly the larger names such as Infowars, Daily
Caller, Brightbart and even Fox… they've been doing a pretty good job
exposing the Deep State. If they weren't so busy and happy to heavily
focus all their air time and attention on taking down, you know, the
Deep State to expose all this stuff that'll eventually lead to the mass
arrests I do believe they if it wasn't for that and, you know, all that
devotion to that I do believe they would have you on – they’d be willing
to have someone like you on because you're presenting it in a way that
the unconscious majority can grasp with perfectly 3D strictly within the
physical plane and of course when it comes to the US president, you
know, eventually making that announcement hopefully in the very near
future that yes, ETs exist, guess who everyone's going to be googling,
okay? They'll be googling websites like yours. Now have you ever - what
do you say to that - have you ever thought about things
that way?
MICHAEL SALLA
Well,
I have been made aware that Alex Jones is knowledgeable about the kind
of material I've been putting out but I think he is very aware that his
audience still aren’t really receptive to this which you know basically
shows that even within that constituency which is aware of things like
false flag operations and kind of like pedophilia and kind of corruption
of the political elite that even you know that segment of humanity the
kind of the Infowars kind of audience that even then with that kind of
receptiveness are still quite closed to this extraterrestrial phenomenon
and so he has been very careful in terms of how he presents this
material. I know he's had people like David Icke and Jim Mars on his
show but never really kind of encouraged them to go really deeply into
the whole ET thing even though both of them were very knowledgeable. Of
course Jim Mars just recently passed away. But yes I do imagine that in
future I probably will get to, you know, talk with Alex Jones on these
topics and be presenting it within a framework that his audience will
find acceptable.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah,
well I was actually about to mention Infowars. I mean it's pretty safe
to say Alex Jones knows all about this stuff including the whole
InfoWars reporters. There's no doubt about that but the good news is
that if he actually – if anyone who actually watches InfoWars - I would
say around about once every three or four months - the positive
military… let's face it, through Info Wars, they do sometimes dip their
toe in the water to see the audience reaction with some out there
esoteric stuff just to see what happens whether their constituencies are
ready or not. An example off the top of my head - they did reveal the
existence of Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean - they did do a piece on
that - and then left it alone. You know, so if you pay attention you'll
see they do dip their toes in every once in a while to see when people
are ready - but once again it's understandable that they've got a lot of
work and have to focus all their airtime on exposing the usual
shenanigans of the cabal through the deep state so they're doing their
piece of the puzzle, no doubt. Cobra, let's get into some history,
gentlemen, because for the longest time we in the awake and aware
community - up until very recently with Corey or David Wilcock - with
their information in the past year or two many of us just assumed or
thought that it was primarily a reptilian or draconian - you know -
reptoid kind of takeover of the planet at least on the physical plane
and, you know, this is excluding the etheric planes and the archons and
so forth and we've recently… thanks to Corey Goode and David Wilcock
they've popularized shall I say the awareness that, no, it's actually
also, if not primarily, the so-called pre-Adamites - these giant humans
with elongated skulls and they're the actual ancestors of the thirteen
bloodline families so feel free to add anything to that, gentlemen,
after I ask this following question which is…. when did each group
arrive here…. and you can start with any group you want, Cobra, or
Michael…
COBRA
Okay.
So these so-called pre-Adamites actually many people were speaking
about this in different ways and this is a name of the group which
actually formed the Illuminati - it's um - the core of the group is
coming from the Andromeda galaxy. I was speaking about this group with a
different name many times in my blog - so this is not something new –
it is something actually that was discussed a lot the last few decades.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Well what name would you give it, just so that people have a reference point ?
COBRA
Archon families.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Archon families?
COBRA
Yes, or black nobility. This is the same - the same source – the same groups.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Okay,
like I said to clarify the these arcons - these archon families are
they incarnated on the physical plane as these giants with elongated
skulls?
COBRA
Okay, you have the physical ones and the non-physical ones and the physical ones tend
to
incarnate in certain bloodlines - certain families - and most of those
families are concentrated in Italy so they are in the hierarchy of …
high above all the usual suspects of the Cabal Network and they are
controlling them and some of those bloodlines go back to the Roman
Empire and even further back so they have proof of genetic lineage going
back some of them to Ancient Egypt for example. And basically the same
families were controlling Atlantis and were the so-called dark magicians
of Atlantis.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Okay, so these are actual descendants of these giants - these PreAdamites with elongated skulls… just to clarify….
COBRA
Actually
in Atlantis, the giant race was much more frequent than it is now and
then it was slowly exterminated and from generation to generation the
genetic makeup changed and the height of those beings decreased and you
can still see in some of the ancient excavations - you can see the
pictures of those giants and the people with elongated skulls - you can
see that very clearly.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Okay and these are - based on your information - incarnated archons generally? Or all of them or some of them or …?
COBRA
All
of them, actually. It's a group. It's a very specific distinct group
which does not interact much with the outside world in a way. They have
their own unique - they behave in a certain way, they think in a certain
way. It’s a distinct species, actually.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Well there’s no doubt they certainly perfected the art of sociopathism - that much we can say for certain.
COBRA
Yes,
yes, exactly. One of the things that happened to them if they have
been… um…following the - I would say the wrong course of evolution - and
then as a consequence sociopathy is one of their main characteristics.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
Hmm.
No doubt. Okay, so based on Cory's information they were literally
chased here several times - like they resided on Mars, there was a war
there that caused a complete destruction of Maldek also known as Tiamat,
the Super Earth, and then they fled to the rings of Saturn, they were
attacked there again then they fled to the moon, had a base on the moon
for a long time - hundreds of thousands of years apparently - they got
attacked there and then they fled to Antarctica which many of you know
the story by now and with only three ships remaining and literally
crash-landed in the lush vegetation and before I get you to clarify that
story or add any corrections….. now, this happened about 50 to 60
thousand years ago so now the non-physical Archon invasion occurred from
what we've been told 26,000 years ago…. So can you marry that up if you
will for the audience, Cobra…. and Michael feel free to chip in if you
have any intel on this as well….
COBRA
Basically
there were many…there were waves of archon invasions happening before
the time you specify. The first one was the arrival of the dark forces
into the solar system which was a little bit less than 1 million years
ago - and they entered from the Orion constellation. The Rigelians from
the Orion constellation. And the Rigelians actually came from the
Andromeda galaxy and some of the archons already arrived on Planet Earth
within the Atlantean times as I said before. They were actually… some
of them were even the rulers of Atlantis or rulers of the dark lodge in
Atlantis.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHTWARRIOR
So these initial archons – they arrived here prior to 26,000 years ago?
COBRA
Yes, those initial archons arrived here a little bit less - I would say around 900
thousand years ago. They have entered the solar system, they have put their bases
on the moons of Saturn, they have put their bases on Mars. There was fighting involved
because
there were other groups in the solar system with their own interests.
They have put their bases on the moon, they have landed in Antarctica,
and finally arrived in Atlantis. Actually one group descended in Congo,
one group descended in Antarctica, and then slowly they migrated to
Atlantis because Atlantis was at that time a tropical paradise. And of
course there was a very dynamic history in the last millions of years
with both light and dark factions sometimes winning, sometimes losing.
Until 25,000 or 26,000 years ago there was this final - I would say -
the final invasion that sealed the fate of the planet for the last 26
thousand years because they completed the quarantine. They have made
Planet Earth actually a dark planet with everybody just recycling
through the incarnation process with nobody allowed to go in and out
here except when allowed by the archons and by the Chimera group. The
Chimera group was basically most of the time just observing this behind
the scenes and they have not intervened much in human history. They have
intervened only when there was a real possibility of breaking up of the
quarantine status. And this is what's happening now. But they were
controlling the whole narrative for the whole time.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Sorry, can you repeat that last one?
COBRA
They were controlling the whole narrative for the whole time. The Chimera group
was one of the top and it still is one of the top.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
so for about a million years there was a back and forth battle over the
solar system and over earth but it wasn't until 26,000 years ago that a
significant invasion of as I
understand it non-physical archons had taken place….
COBRA
Okay
there were significant invasions before but they were not complete. The
invasion of 26,000 years ago was a complete invasion. It was a full
scale invasion which was both physical and non-physical.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, interesting. Okay now the reptilian races that the Dracos and Reptilians - when did
they arrive to this planet and….
COBRA
It
was an actually the Archons and the Chimera were leading the way and
they were actually importing the Reptilian-Draco slaves from the Orion
star systems. You see, the Dracos were like the middlemen, like the
strategists, the military commanders, the slaveholders…
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
…that carry things out…
COBRA
Yes.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, and the archons and the Chimera were above them commanding them basically, really calling the shots .
COBRA
Yes.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
so they all basically arrived at similar time periods over the last
million years into the solar system anyway… and the Chimera….Go ahead.
MICHAEL SALLA
Yeah.
I was just going to add that as I understand it, that there are kind of
like three factions in terms of the whole extraterrestrial question and
you know this is my understanding and Cobra can maybe comment on how
that dovetails with his…. but I think that the Reptilian presence was
probably on Earth the longest of any life-form - they've been around
here for a long time. I mean you look at the dinosaurs and quite
clearly archaeologists have been able to kind of establish that the
likelihood of intelligent kind of dinosaurs or Raptors that these beings
could have naturally evolved on Earth millions of years ago and I think
that there's good reason to say that you know the Reptilians were
probably the original one of the original kind of intelligent species on
the earth then for some reason you know the dinosaurs were wiped out
and some cataclysm and I think that that's when the human
extraterrestrials came along and basically began seeding humanity on the
planet. Maybe they were altering some of the kind of early hominoids on
the planet and they began multiple experiments. And Alex Collier and
Corey Goode have both talked about 22 long-term genetic experiments over
a period of roughly half a million years and you know there's a lot of
data supporting that we do have multiple ET groups that had been
interfering. Arthur Horne wrote a book called “Humanity's
Extraterrestrial Origins” where he kind of goes into how the different
ET groups have at certain points kind of intervened genetically and then
the final group I think - you know, people call them the Anunnaki or
maybe you can call them the pre-Adamite - but there's good reasons to
think that these are beings that came in 50,000 years ago or so and
established a kind of new ruling elite. They had hybrids and created a
lot of intermarriage and like the Book of Enoch describes that, you
know, these are the fallen angels and yeah I think there's good reason -
I think that maybe these are the ones that Corey Goode has talked
about, as you know, who came here via the moon but previously from Mars
or from Maldek and that these three groups have been kind of competing
against each other for influence and domination of the planet. I think
the human looking extraterrestrials tend to do things more from behind
the scenes - they tend to kind of just tinker with human genetics and
see how we are able to respond to the kind of more overt interference by
the Reptilians and then these pre-Adamites who - I think I agree with
Cobra that they are the kind of ruling elites or at least their genetics
are what the Cabal share.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah, yes certainly, well…..
COBRA
Okay, here I have to say something – explain something - about the Reptilians. There are
different
types of Reptilians. There are so-called native Reptilians that were
part of the Earth evolution that evolved here to remain in geological
ages and the dinosaurs were part of that - I would say - native group
that was native for this planet. It is true that they were destroyed in a
cataclysm but there was one faction of those native Reptilians that
survived below the surface of the planet and they were inhabiting many
caves underground… they were inheriting areas along underground rivers
and lakes and then about 1 million years ago as I said, there was an
invasion and along with the Archon Families and the Dracos, many Orion
Reptilians came and Orion Reptilians are much more warlike and they have
infested the whole Reptilian population underground with that warlike
mentality. So the native reptilians that were here before are not the
same anymore. They have actually joined this… um… big warlike meme that
exists among the Reptilian race and they consider this to be their
planet….and they consider humans to be invaders and this is the main
conflict between the Reptilian race and the human race and actually it
is not easy to resolve this conflict but finally it will be resolved
because there are not many Reptilians left on the planet - almost zero
on the surface and very little below the surface and Reptilian race some
of this – one part of the Reptilian race will reform back into the
light. They will become peaceful and beings that will respect the free
will of the others but the rest of the Reptilian race will have to go to
the Central Sun so this is one of the issues that needs to be addressed
here.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah.
Well, yes, many of us have heard… about the complaints basically from
the Reptilian and Draco factions saying that “no, they were here first”,
doing their genetic experimentation and their own version of the grand
experiment as Corey Goode calls it -you know – with regards to the grand
experiment that the human ETs started apparently sometime after that.
So, Michael unless you have anything to say to that….
MICHAEL SALLA
Well,
you know, I think it is an important issue in terms of well … what are
the Reptilians doing on the planet? I think that there are a lot of
Reptilian shapeshifters that live amongst us and that this is going to
be part of the problem that we are going to have to face as a species
when disclosure happens that these Reptilians are going to reveal
themselves and, you know, they have an ancient claim to the planet. They
were once living on the surface and they will invoke that and say well
you know we want to live openly again on the surface and I think
humanity will have to learn the ideas of coexistence with this foreign
race and I think that's going to be a real challenge for a lot of people
because I think - and I agree with Cobra - that there has been a kind
of offworld Reptilian species that has come in - the Draconians - and
that they have created a lot of problems. They're a very aggressive
imperialistic race. And, you know, people assume that all reptilians are
kind of like draconian, barbaric beings that have been just exploiting
humanity but I think that there are quite a number of Reptilian
shapeshifters who do live amongst us and that when disclosure happens
people are gonna have to get used to the idea that some of these beings
are gonna want to be integrated into this kind of new society - this new
Earth - that it's not just going to be a homogenous human population
that we're going to have to deal with Reptilians, humans, and other
offworld beings that suddenly kind of like come out of the shadows and
say, “well there's no need anymore for us to hide ourselves - now here
we are and how are you gonna deal with us?”
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Well,
here’s the thing – these Reptilians - whatever there's left of them on
the physical plane even those ones that are disguised as humans whether
it’s done through technology or actual shape-shifting if that can be
done in any physical way…
COBRA
Actually,
I need to say something. It is not like this - suddenly there will be
beings with tails and shape-shifting walking around the planet, but
there is a certain part of the Reptilian race which incarnated - so the
Reptilian soul is incarnated within the humanoid body so it looks like a
normal human but his psychological makeup - the feelings, emotions, the
thoughts the perception is Reptilian and you can find many of those
Reptilians among mercenaries. They tend to gravitate towards that kind
of profession.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah,
well either way they're just gonna have to accept the fact that if they
don't respect and honor free will and prosperity and freedom and the
human propensity to make love half the time and so forth - we don't care
how long they've been here for - they either respect free will and grow
in consciousness and grow a heart chakra - dare I say - or we will
continue to be at war with them.
COBRA
Actually,
anybody that will not respect free will have to go. This will be a
planet of respectful free will. It will not be an experiment where
everything is allowed anymore. This is over. It’s not going to be
allowed anymore.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah.
I don't see all the positive factions on the surface - let alone the
SSP Alliance - let alone the Galactic Confederation and the Sphere
Beings tolerating infringement upon free will any further. Overtly or
covertly. I'm sure we'll all agree on that one….
MICHAEL SALLA
Can
I just add to that? I do agree that this will be a planet of free will
and just the extent to which our planet or humanity is mind controlled
so that people kind of dumb down - this is one of the things that I was
talking with William Tompkins about quite a bit - and he said that, you
know, basically what the Navy was aware of - the US Navy - is that
essentially the Reptilians have these tanker ships in the upper
atmosphere spraying all these noxious gases into the atmosphere
deliberately around populated areas or wherever there's a kind of an
awakening and just dumbing people down so all of a sudden they forget
about what whatever progressive ideas or experiments that they may have
launched. I think you know when we have this kind of full disclosure,
that's going to be stopped and I think once you have that manipulation
stopped where, you know, these noxious gases are not pumped into the air
and into the water and into the food supply that I think humanity is
gonna wake up from this kind of long slumber and I think that we can
truly enter a kind of paradise compared to where we are now - you know
once you have this kind of negative influence by the Reptilians and, you
know, these controlling groups… these bloodline families.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
well um…let’s um…. Cobra you get a lot of, you know, firsthand regular
intel about this sort of thing directly from the Resistance Movement -
being the offworld group that you represent on the surface here. Have a
lot of these craft - Reptilian or Chimera or even Dark Fleet craft that
used to do this sort of spraying in the upper atmosphere - have a lot of
them been taken out now?
COBRA
Yes,
yes - you see the number is constantly changing. There is a dynamic
going on. It’s actually a battle going on - a war going on - especially
in the low Earth orbit which is not detected because all those ships are
cloaked - and the number is constantly changing because the low Earth
orbit area had not been liberated yet. And most of those ships are – I
would say - some of those ships are commanded by the Draco personnel -
some of them are different Secret Space Program factions - but all of
them are controlled by the Chimera. And the purpose - the main aim of
the Chimera is to defend the quarantine status. They do not want this
planet to be liberated. They see this as an invasion. They see the
Galactic Confederation forces as invaders that are invading their planet
and interfering in the way they handle their so-called slaves. This is
how they see it.
Part II
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah.
Well, I want to get to that…uh…pretty soon regarding the various fleets
that are still out there both good and bad. But what I want to do first
is quickly bring us forward a fair bit in history and you know one of
the most popular stands against bloodline rule, you know, these
descendants of the pre-Adamites, if you will, has been the American
Revolutionary War with the 13 colonies, you know, very openly bravely
stood and said “no” to bloodline rule being led by positive Freemasons
being the founding fathers but one thing that isn't spoken about and
hasn't been given its due in terms of recognition - and a very
under-recognized forgotten thing is the English Civil War that was
fought in the 1640s - you know, Oliver Cromwell and his Parliamentarian
armies against the bloodline ruling king at the time and, Cobra, maybe
you'll have the answer for this. Is there any connection between…first
of all was Oliver Cromwell's side of the English Civil War… were they
actually influenced behind the scenes by either white nobility or
positive freemasons and do any of these white nobility families and or
positive freemasons have any connection to the American Revolutionary
War and the positive Freemasons there with the founding fathers?
COBRA
Yes.
Actually first I will speak about the English Revolutionary War. There
was a positive influence of certain Rosicrucian groups behind the scenes
and certain positive white nobility families. They wanted to do exactly
that – to end the bloodline rule. This was their aim – and this was not
as successful as they had hoped. It did trigger something…
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
It
did succeed, but then eight years later - probably through black magic,
bribery, assassinations, hexes ,curses, spells…. we know how they roll…
they managed to claw
their way back into influence and stick another - well in this case the Saxe-Coburg line –
COBRA
Basically
it was not successful enough because the bloodlines still ruled behind
the scenes or sometimes even directly – it was not what they hoped for
so they - the Light Forces - created a more thorough plan which they
carried out through certain positive Freemason groups and that actually
started in France - in the year 1775. That was a decisive year because
there were certain lodges created in Paris and St. Germain was the
force
behind those lodges – in connection when Benjamin Franklin – that
started this independence movement within the United States and the
Constitution of the United States was stated in a way that if it would
be completely respected, it would erase the Cabal from the United
States. And this is why the Cabal is so allergic to the Constitution
because it protects the sovereign individual and it protects the
sovereign state based on a group of sovereign individuals and this
particular project of the Light Forces was successful to a certain
degree and without that project we would be in the Middle Ages right
now.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah. Well said. Well that dovetails really nicely with my next question which is -
Napoleon
Bonaparte - who was he really working for? You know, was it actually
genuine attempts by - as I understand it - a positive French Freemason
Lodge to throw off bloodline rule in Europe - and then the world for
that matter - because of bloodlines
colonized all the other continents by then? Or was it really just working for the Jesuits …
COBRA
Actually
it was a war between Jesuits and the Rothschilds - and actually he was
working for the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds were against the Church
although they were working for the church - they were collecting the
cash for Jesuits - but they had a strong tension with the Jesuits and
they had their idea of unified Europe. It’s a Rothschild idea,
basically, and this is what Napoleon wanted to create - the European
Union that would be also a monetary union that would collect cash for
the Rothschilds, that they would have to give it most of it to the
Jesuits, but there was always a strong tension between the Jesuits and
the Rothschilds and this reflected in the Napoleon Wars. And there were,
of course, freemason groups that supported Napoleon and there were
other groups that were
not … that were supporting the Jesuits… and it was a constant tension there also.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay. Okay. Interesting. Well obviously they succeeded with their European Union as we all know by now.
COBRA
We
have to say that the Light Forces also benefited from this plan because
the European Union is a two edged sword. It’s not all bad or good. It
does promote… it can
promote… under certain circumstances it can promote growth and development but it
can also be misused. So what is happening now in Spain we all can see how this can
turn sour.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay. Go ahead, Michael.
MICHAEL SALLA
Oh
yeah I was just gonna say that I do like to look at the kind of
historical evolution of forces as being more a trinary kind of dynamic
as opposed to, you know, two groups… two dominant groups and I think
that one group - you know, the more positive group - does tend to work
through just kind of implanting certain ideas or ideals into human
consciousness and working with kind of gifted people to promote those
ideas and, you know, I think to begin with I think Napoleon was
overlighted if you like by these more positive groups with these ideals
of self-determination and republicanism and that really did inspire
millions all around the European continent. I mean that's why he was
able to have, you know, those stunning military successes because he did
get so much support from the peoples all over Europe and he had the
potential to carry it into the Middle East and so forth. I mean he went
into Egypt and but the reactionary forces did kind of step in and I
think Napoleon - out of…. often…. just kind of good intentions thought
that well the answer would be him kind of aggrandizing power around
himself and so he became Emperor and I think that's truly when he went
over to the dark side but I think at the beginning he did play a role as
a kind of spreading these more evolutionary ideas and helped help
republicanism and kind of self-determination take off in Europe
and around the world in the 1800's .
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah.
Because I have heard briefly here and there that it was you know a move
to throw off the the rule across all of Europe of these incestuous
royal families…. most of whom are, you know, the descendants of the so
called - or some of them if not most of them descendents of the
so-called pre-Adamites. So having said that I just want to get into
another question for both of you. Did the 13 bloodlines - the black
nobility – lose control of the Nazis and Hitler in particular to their
quote, unquote, “enemies” the Dracos? Because we know about the Draco
influence - if not major control - over the Nazis. Now the reason why I
asked this question was again for the longest time we thought that those
three pre-Adamite ships - these giants with elongated skulls - that
crash-landed in Antarctica fifty… sixty thousand years ago…we… you know,
I admit even I assumed that it was positive ETS that were chasing them
across the solar system trying to end them. Understandably, I'm sure a
lot of us assumed that. But no, it was the Dracos that that were chasing
them all over the place… and chased them here as well… and it was then
that many of us understood… okay, this is a long-established intense
rivalry between two negative ET groups - and their descendants for that
matter. So that's why I'm posing this question to either of you two. Was
it a case that the thirteen bloodlines….black nobility…. did they
actually…. Because initially they supported Hitler… they were financing
him initially but then Hitler started to do… you know… not to approve of
anything about them for heaven's sake but then he started printing his
own currency so he wasn’t playing by the rules anymore and then of
course we know about the close connections between the Nazi Secret Space
Program and the Draco influence with that and that's where the two kind
of merge. So I know that's a long-winded way of asking that question to
either of you – was this the case? Did the 13 bloodlines lose control?
Did they have control and then lose control of Hitler and the Nazis to
their enemies the Dracos?
COBRA
Okay.
The situation is a little bit more complex. It is not just about
Hitler. It is about everything that was happening in Germany. And
Germany is a very special case in the history of the 19th and 20th
centuries - actually there was…before Germany was unified, there was a
country called Prussia. And Prussia was part of the later Germany and
that country had a very strong industry - it was scientifically very
advanced and this is where the first secret space programs started in
the 19th century already.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
The 1800’s you’re talking about?
COBRA
It’s
1820-1830, the first things moved already - long before they
established it was all secret - it was a military department - it was a
military secret program that very few people knew about.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
So was this even before the Franco-Prussian war of 1871?
COBRA
Yes.
It was a long long time before – and the Prussian military was one of
the most advanced militaries at that time - and what happened is that
the Pleiadians saw an opportunity to introduce the seeds of a positive
secret space program and they have telepathically contacted many people
in Germany inspiring them to start building their own spaceships. And
that was happening in the 19th century already. And of course the first
prototypes were very crude – they did not work. And then in the
beginning of the 20th century they have contacted Maria Orsic - and I
hope you know we are familiar with the story of Maria Orsic. She was a
medium. She was a channel. She channeled Pleiadians from the Aldeberan
star system and she was invited in a certain group which is called the
Thule Society and then later the Vril Society - and this is how the
German secret space program started and first the Rothschilds
infiltrated the group through Hitler. There was one man that was part of
the group - actually one of the founders of the group - which was
Rudolph Glauer and he called himself Baron von Sebottendorff and he was
connected very deeply with various occult forces in Turkey and those
forces were – I would not go much deeper into this - but those forces
were steering the narrative since then and then we have Karl Haushofer -
one of those Germans and he travelled a lot into the East and when the
Chimera group – the Chimera group was of course watching all that
development and when they saw that this German program which had a
potential for a breakthrough - there was a real possibility they would
begin building an operational spacecraft that will contact the
Pleiadians and make a first contact which could be public – they decided
to intervene. So they sent Draco factions from Tibet into contact with
Haushofer. And Haushofer came back then to Germany - he was in contact
with Hitler and this is how the – the green men - started to control
Hitler. It was the Dracos. And Hitler signed a pact with the Dracos.
And of course this was not the only group that was influencing Hitler.
The Rothschilds were in play - the Jesuits were in play - you probably
know about the big Jesuit pentagram of concentration camps so each of
those factions have their own idea what will happen in that war. The
Jesuits wanted to have concentration camps, the Rothschilds wanted to
earn money. The Dracos wanted to control the planet through Hitler. The
Chimera group wanted to control the quarantine and then the Pleaidians….
there is a story about the Pleiadians. The Pleiadians saw what's
happening and they wanted to prevent the genocide and before World War
Two the Pleiadians signed a contract with Hitler. They promised him
technology in exchange that Hitler will not start the genocide but this
was their last attempt to prevent the genocide. When this did not happen
they cut all contact with Hitler and with the Nazis. That was I think
in 1941 or 1942 and then the Dracos gave technology to Hitler. So it was
actually a proxy war between the Dracos and the Confederation. Through
this proxy war, World War Two, much of the galaxy was cleared. It was
like part of the galactic war which had its anchor on the physical plane
on planet Earth. And the Confederation had a partial victory and the
Nazis had to go underground so part of them went to Antarctica and part
of them went to the United States through Operation Paperclip and now we
have the key Nazis controlling the United States. That's what's
happening and this is the so-called Cabal. And they are of course merged
with the bloodlines. Many of them belong to the bloodlines or now, of
course, they work with the bloodlines.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
I
see. Now, Michael before I get you in on that…I've always had let's
just call it that Hitler was just showing just too much independence
albeit within the yoke of the of Draco backing - if not complete Draco
control… and that …like… I want to know the
position
of the actual thirteen bloodlines in all this because I've always
suspected that they lost control of Hitler and the Nazis and that's when
they started funding and putting everything they had into the Allies –
US, UK, USSR - to crush something that they lost control of. Is that the
case? How accurate is that?
MICHAEL SALLA
Do
you think that Hitler basically went off the script… that the bloodline
families did set him up? The elites - industrialists within the Vril
society that put Hitler in power thought that they could control him and
when they found that they couldn't - that he was ready to kind of start
these aggressive wars - they were prepared to move against him - that
it's actually documented that - for example - Wilhem Canaris , who was
the Admiral in charge of German military intelligence, and other German
industrialists were ready to depose Hitler over the the Czech crisis
and that they were caught off guard with the peace agreement that was
reached between Chamberlain and Hitler because that basically
strengthened Hitler's hand and so Hitler then - now his position was
unassailable in the German political scene and he went on to invade
Poland - and the rest is history. But I
think
what happened was that because of his aggressiveness - and I think he
was following the script that the Draconians were giving him that the
bloodline families or the Thule society people - that they really put
all of their stock into the Antarctica program and moved a lot of their
people and resources down there and kind of like kept a lot of the
developments down there away from Hitler and certainly didn't share the
most
advanced
technologies they had there, you know, which Hitler planned to use for
the war effort. So they kind of denied him that … and in the sense that,
you know, that contributed to Germany losing the war but then the Nazis
did through Operation Paperclip… you know, they were able to infiltrate
the United States and basically assert a Fourth Reich with the
cooperation of the German elites or the German space program out of
Antarctica.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
Cobra, last word on… what was it? A case of the 13 bloodlines - the
black nobility - losing control of Hitler and the Nazis and then using
and backing the US, UK, and USSR to crush him. Was that what happened?
Was that the case?
COBRA
I
don't see it this way. I see it… like they always do… they wanted a
war. They wanted a conflict. They wanted…. because the Rothschild's were
making money out of it. Everybody was gaining something for their
objectives. They wanted this war and they didn't care about Hitler or
the Nazis. For them it’s just one side of the conflict. And you know
there were factories in the United States producing weapons for Germany
for example… things like that happening… so it was in their interest for
this to happen. It seems to be that when they saw that Germany will
lose the war, they have flipped the script. They have just made a plan
for a surrender of Germany… infiltration of Nazis in the United
States…. removal of the most sensitive programs to Antarctica and
everybody was happy.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
so they weren't… the black nobility, from their perspective, they
weren't nervous about Hitler and the Nazis taking over when they're
working for the Draco's… their longtime rivals for God knows how long?
COBRA
They
were not nervous because they had the same objective although from a
different perspective. It's like there's always rivalry between the
Dracos and the black nobility but that rivalry is not like a question of
survival. They are on the same page. The real conflict….the real
polarization….is between the light and the dark forces. The dark
factions actually many times they can agree better than the light
factions.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah, yeah. I was about to say they often work together when it suits their goals.
COBRA
Exactly.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay.
One thing I do want to make sure we don't leave before we move on is
who specifically - now the Holocaust as I understand it was almost
strictly a Jesuit operation…
COBRA
Yes.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
If that's the case, who specifically did the Jesuits sacrifice all those Holocaust victims for?
COBRA
They
were worshiping the entity called Moloch. And this is… they wanted to
actually create a portal through which they would turn planet Earth into
a dark planet. They wanted to reintroduce the Dark Ages… the Middle
Ages, actually.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Hmm.
Yeah, definitely. Okay moving on… here we go. Now, Michael, do you have
any status updates or any recent information regarding the lower level -
what David Wilcock has called the lower level military-industrial
complex Secret Space Program, as well as the US Navy's role in all this?
Meaning are they both one and the same thing or is the MIC SSP a
separate faction from the the US Navy's SSP?
MICHAEL SALLA
I
think that is the case - that the MIC or the kind of Air Force run
Secret Space Program is very different to what the Navy had set up. I
think the Air Force program really is much more focused on kind of Earth
surveillance and monitoring nearby traffic and maybe some minor
missions to the moon… maybe to Mars… but you know using their TR3
craft…but I don't think they have the most advanced technologies,
technologies involving kind of interstellar space carriers and, you
know, with crews that are on these 20 & Back programs that that's
what the Navy has been doing for decades now but I think what we are
seeing at the moment is the slow rollout of the Air Force SSP that this
is what they want to do because I think that they feel that in rolling
out that program, that they're going to get more funding and that maybe
they'll get better technology because I do believe that any…due to
compartmentalization… that the Airforce Secret Space Program people
aren't aware of what the Navy has achieved. And you know and while I
think that, you know, due to inter-services rivalry and
compartmentalization, they don't believe the Navy has a space program. I
think there is a suspicion that this is real - there have been some
credible people that have come out and just most recently there's a
person who's just come out - I mean just yesterday actually - the first
interview video interview was released of Michael Gerloff who actually
was part of the Space Marines - but he did serve in a 20 & Back
program and what makes him different to the other 20 & Back people
who have come out is that he has a lot of documents that he has made
available to be released and so over the course of this video series
that I'm doing with him I'll be releasing more of these documents and
they show that he was someone that should be taken very seriously and I
think he is the catalyst for many more people who served with for the
Navy space program to come forward and I think that's going to lead to
the Air Force disclosure narrative to kind of shift to broaden a little
bit because I think they're gonna realize that they've been manipulated
as well.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
I
see, okay. Well it's great to hear that you you are continuing to
collect evidence and then proof in testimony on video and so forth.
That’s really great to see.
COBRA
I
have a few things here to say about the situation. First about this new
whistleblower that came and his documents…. there was a certain
document called Mars-GRAM and I have to say this has nothing to do with
planet Mars – it is simply a military auxillary radio system. It's a
radio system that some radio amateurs can use to support the military
operations and it has nothing to do with planet Mars. I have to say
that. Also, another thing that I need to say is that the Navy's Secret
Space Program was supported and still is supported by the Galactic
Confederation. I would say the concentration applied within the Navy
space program is much higher than in the Air Force Space Program and so
we again have this tension which is a part of the…. I would say proxy
war between the Chimera and the Confederation – the Chimera group trying
to steer the narrative through the Air Force space program and the
reason why the Air Force is so much focused now on increasing the Low
Earth orbit activity and increasing the military presence in the Earth
orbit because they are afraid again of the end of quarantine status.
They are afraid of so-called quote-unquote “invasion” of the Galactic
Confederation. They have actually issued some memos about this.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
okay. Is it true that the lower-level MIC SSP that I believe is
controlled by a positive faction has recently built and used in combat
advanced spacecraft every bit as good as the Dark Fleet’s and the Draco
fleet’s? And the example that you'll both know about is – I think it was
January 2016 - when the Dark Fleet tried to take off from Antarctica
carrying a significant number of actual cabal members trying to get off
the planet - and they were attacked by those Chevron shaped craft which
is believed to be lower level MIC SSP.
COBRA
Basically,
the U.S. is not the only country that has a Secret Space Program. Also
the Russians and the Chinese have their own space program. And I would
say the positive Alliance is supporting the Chinese and the Russian
space programs quite much.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, okay. Michael, do you have any…
MICHAEL SALLA
Yes.
Similarly that's the information I got - that those ships that were
used in Antartica against the Dark Fleet - that they belong to the Earth
Alliance and that the Russians and other nations within the BRICS
Alliance were responsible for that. But that's very different to the Air
Force program. I’d say that the Airforce doesn't have that kind of
advanced technology - that their technology is still very primitive
compared to, you know, what the Corporations have up there and what the
Navy has up there but I do want to point out that the Air Force Space
Program or those involved in this disclosure narrative coming from the
Air Force - there's been a major shift in that earlier this year. There
was a document released that was leaked from the Defense Intelligence
Agency and for the first time the Air Force and the Defense Intelligence
Agency community -
they
were talking about human looking extraterrestrials. This has never
happened before with any of the other Majestic 12 documents. None of
them have ever talked about extraterrestrials other than Greys but now
with this new document that's come forward -now the Defense Intelligence
Agency is talking about Tesla and talking about human extraterrestrials
that have been – that had entered into diplomatic relations with
Eisenhower and so forth so I think what we're seeing is a kind of
convergence in terms of the kind of disclosure initiative that the Navy
is pursuing and what the Air Force is prepared to accept so that's very
encouraging. Because I think that, you know, the people in the Air Force
are starting to accept some of the Navy people's narratives.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
interesting. Well, yeah, that is encouraging. Now, Cobra, I know you
don't like to talk numbers and percentages and all that… but I just
couldn't resist - well from both of you - what's your most recent or
last intel on actual numbers left with regards to the Dark Fleet and the
Draco Fleet? Like… are they both still significant fighting forces now -
as far as low-earth orbit and service is concerned?
MICHAEL SALLA
Right,
well, according to Cory Goode’s information that the Dark Fleet has
kind of like been decimated because of this kind of solar system wide
quarantine that has prevented reinforcements from coming in and that
really is just the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate that has been
kind of like in the ascendancy as far as the most advanced technologies
that the kind of dark side or the Rothschild factions can deploy out
there. But, you know, they're losing power I mean what we… what you
described in terms of Antarctica in 2016 I think was a big shock to them
that there was a human space program that wasn't controlled by the
Corporations or the Dark Fleet that was as advanced as them. Yeah this
was not something that …
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
And this was Earth Alliance we’re talking about, right? Was it the Earth Alliance that attacked them?
MICHAEL SALLA
Right, that’s correct.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Because that’s the word from the SSP Alliance. You know, the former Solar Warden as I understand it - so that's a big deal.
MICHAEL SALLA
That's
right, yeah. The Navy’s Solar Warden program just operates in deep
space - they don't have any kind of meaningful role to play as far as
what's happening around the Earth. That's typically been…..you know, the
Air Force is the main of operations but the Air Force doesn't have any
kind of technology to counter what the Interplanetary Corporate
Conglomerate can do or what the Dark Fleet has been doing and so they
kind of had free reign to come and go as they please but now with this
Earth Alliance the thing….the dynamic has changed significantly.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah. Go ahead, Cobra.
COBRA
Okay,
I will not put any numbers…. for obvious reasons…. the reason I don't
want to give any numbers is we are not the only ones listening to this
show and some of the information is sensitive but I would say there will
be more and more focus on the Low Earth Orbit operations - a lot will
be happening in the Low-Earth orbit and it will become more and more
public. Various interest groups, various factions will put… will want to
put their presence there because it’s the last line of defense before
the planetary liberation. So we will see a lot of news about that in the
near future and various so-called Secret Space Program factions will
begin - and have to begin - to communicate with
each
other and because much more and more of this is already revealed. It's
been leaked and released to the general population so also people in
various positions within those programs are forced by the situation to
begin to cooperate one way or the other so all this will be part of the
disclosure process one way or the other.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
so for now at least the the Dark Fleet and the Draco Fleet, they’re
still a significant force in the Low Earth orbit and surface area? Would
you agree with that?
COBRA
I
would say parts of the Dark Fleet and the Draco Fleet are under the
complete command of the Chimera but it's decreasing very fast.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay.
People appreciate hearing that - not out of fear - but just out of you
know this whole thing's been taking a while so for the sake of
inspiration and motivation, I guess, which is certainly what Ground Crew
Command is all about…Now the Chimera themselves… do they still have any
sizeable fleet left or are they only left with portal use or are they
the ones that have strict control over the Draco Fleet and Dark Fleet?
COBRA
Okay,
they are at the very top. They have a few elite craft and they have
some teleportation chambers and that's about it. They don't have much.
They tend to be behind the scenes - not directly involved - as much as
possible because each time they make an action… they do something…. they
are exposing themselves. They’d rather expose their Draco minions and
let them do the dirty fight.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yep.
Yep. Fair enough. Now, you provided in your last update, Cobra, that a
significant portion of the Chimera group - I mean it was down to 80 like
a month ago or something I think you said and then your last post … a
significant portion have been taken off planet by the Light Forces. If
that's the case, are you allowed to provide any updated numbers on how
many that’s left…that are still at large?
COBRA
Again,
for obvious reasons I will not give a new number but I would say the
group …. you know, the toughest ones, are remaining for the end so we
have now a very tough, very small group, which is technologically at the
very top and uh… but they will be dealt with summarily one way or the
other as well. But I will not give any estimate…any numbers or any time
frames….for various reasons.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah,
well done. Now, do either of you know if the lower level MIC SSP and
the US Navy are working closely and or directly with the Galactic
Confederation yet? Let alone the former Solar Warden aka SSP Alliance?
COBRA
Okay,
I can speak for the Pleiadian Fleet. The Pleiadian Fleet is in direct
contact with Putin and top military brass in Russia. And this is now the
only country that has a direct communication link. There are plans to
do this in China as well but in the United States the situation is a
little bit difficult because there is simply too much infiltration in
all the groups so the Pleiadian Fleet is very careful. They do sometimes
transmit warning messages to certain factions that they go too far -
but that’s about it at the moment.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, fair enough. Go ahead, Michael.
MICHAEL SALLA
Yeah,
according to William Tompkin’s information - I mean - he's…. he was
saying that historically there was very close co-operation between the
the Nordic extraterrestrials and the Navy and that currently the Nordics
are helping the Navy develop their new generation of space battle
groups that Bill Thompkins said…. that currently there are eight space
battle groups that are part of the Navy Solar Warden program out there.
These were developed in the 1980s and have been refurbished but a
completely new generation is being built - in the 2030s it’s projected
to be deployed - and that they had been built in full cooperation with
the Nordics who have been helping the Navy and so I think that that
relationship is very close. The Air Force Secret Space Program…. they
have been working closely with the Reptilians with the Greys with the
Fourth Reich so that is a much more limited program, as I said. Limited
to Earth Operations. And I agree with what Cobra has said that's
definitely the information I've been getting about Putin working with
this Nordic Group. As well that he's been given advanced technology and
that this has been why the Earth Alliance has developed such advanced
technologies to parallel what the corporations were secretly able to
build down in Antarctica.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay.
COBRA
Okay,
here I have something to clarify. The Pleiadians were… had a strong
cooperation with the Navy Secret Space Program starting in the 1950s and
going on until 1996. Then there was the Archon Invasion and that
connection was broken. The link was broken. What they are doing now is
that they are….they have a certain channel of communication that I will
not discuss how they do it… but they do… they have a way of providing
intel to certain people within the Navy but this link of communication
is different. It's not the same as before…. The structure… the way how
they influence positively the Navy Secret Space Program is different
now.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay.
I just want to… because I know people are curious just to orientate
their minds about what kind of command structure exists in relation to
the Galactic Confederation, the US Navy… also referred to as the… you
know… SSP Alliance, and the lower level MIC SSP that you've been
alluding to as basically the Air Force. They’re all…are they still
working independently with regards to the Air Force MIC SSP and the Navy
US Navy SSP? Are they still very independent or does one sort of
influence the other?
COBRA
So,
as I said the Navy Secret Space Program receives intel from the
Pleiadians and guidance from the Pleiadians and guidance from the
Galactic Confederation but it’s not direct. It's not like a command
structure. It’s more like an inspirational guidance. The Air Force does
receive… its more in the grip of the Chimera Group. I would say that
many of the remaining Chimera members are positioned within the Air
Force - US Air Force - and also in the militaries of other countries….
you can find them even in China and Russia as well - you need to know
that….the Secret Services… But the chain of command is more direct from
the Chimera group to certain top brass personnel in the Air Force. It's
more like a direct command structure. And of course the Greys, the
Reptilians, the Dracos were more involved in that program in the past
and now as their numbers are diminishing their power is diminishing.
It's more like a direct transmission of power from the Chimera to the
top brass in the Air Force.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, interesting. I want to get a…sorry, Michael, go ahead.
MICHAEL SALLA
I
just wanted to add I agree with what Cobra has said there. I just want
to add… or emphasize what I said earlier that, you know, there is this
development with the Air Force Secret Space Program - through this
document that was released earlier this year - the Defense Intelligence
Agency document, where this new narrative is emerging now of the human
looking extraterrestrials actually having worked with the Air Force…
having been involved in diplomatic relations. So they're presenting a
new narrative and I think that's because there are those in the Air
Force hierarchy who have now thought that while the way disclosure is
going to be rolled out is going to be one where the emphasis is going to
be on human looking extraterrestrials as being presented to us… that
the whole kind of alien invasion scenario - that doesn't have any
likelihood of succeeding - so they’re going to roll forward with this
human looking extraterrestrial and a disclosure process… and the
question is going to be whether the Air Force is going to work with that
kind of…the Vatican and the Jesuits… in rolling out a group of human
looking extraterrestrials who really aren’t allied with the kind of more
positive Confederation or whether it's going to be something that is a
genuinely positive Confederation group. You know, Cory Goode thinks that
the Vatican is ready to disclose a group of human-looking
extraterrestrials that are part of the Confederation. I question whether
the data can… would really do that but I definitely think that that's a
possibility.
COBRA
I
would say that the Pleiadians will not do that and the Confederation
will not do that. They will not address humanity through the Vatican.
The Vatican of course will need or will go along with that full
disclosure process because it will have to but I would say that the
positive extraterrestrial races are contacting anybody they can in any
ways they can because they would like to see this planet free so people
in all walks of life everywhere are being contacted telepathically,
energetically, and they will be contacted physically as well when the
time comes.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah,
I was gonna say regarding the Vatican … for obvious reasons they have
to be watched really damn closely and I'm sure that plan exists … the
plan that you talk about or what they're talking about in the Air Force,
Michael, but I'm just concerned … I'm not sure how well they know the
Vatican … how well they know Jesuits. And I'm just questioning… yeah…
how well they know Jesuits and those in control….go ahead.
MICHAEL SALLA
They
actually… actually the Vatican has been working with the Air Force for a
long time on these issues. The Vatican has been, you know, a key force
in terms of raising money for the lower-level secret space programs, the
black budget money laundering, and a lot of the kind of illicit
mechanisms that exist out there. The Vatican has been involved in that.
Also, the Vatican has been involved in sharing some of the advanced
technologies with Air Force, you know, for example Chronovisor
Technology where they can look into the Future. There's a book by Father
Pellegrino Ernetti called “The Chronovisor” and that… he describes how
the Vatican developed this Chronovisor Technology and Andrew Basiago
says that he actually recalls seeing Father Ernetti being honored by the
CIA for having played a role in sharing this Vatican developed
technology with the CIA so, yeah, the Vatican has been working closely
with the Air Force for a long time… which is why I think that this
possibility of a kind of like a human-looking [extraterrestrial] being
trotted out as, you know, disclosure process sanctioned by the Vatican
and by the Air Force is a real possibility. Whether it's a positive
group or kind of an impostor group, that's something we'll have to find
out.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah, something we'll have to watch… because I'm struggling to trust Jesuits.
COBRA
I would need to say that disclosure – real disclosure will not happen through the Vatican. It’s not going to happen.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay
well we understand gentlemen that you know it's… it's… there’s quite a
few factions involved. I mean it feels like half… you know…. most of the
galaxy's representatives are here and let alone all the various
factions on the Earth, both positive and negative, and it gets pretty
convoluted. And I'm sure there's plenty of positive factions that are
willing to maybe work with or humor the Vatican and there's other
positive factions that I'm sure do not… wouldn't want to touch the
Vatican and anything Jesuit with a 10,000 foot pole - and that would be
understandable given their history… we'd better move on with… for the
audience I want to get a fix on this one thing. Are the Pentagon's Joint
Chiefs of Staff and General Dunford as their chairman in charge or
actually have effective or literal control of the lower-level MIC and the Navy SSP for that matter?
MICHAEL SALLA
No,
they don't have any real influence …I mean the Joint Chiefs of Staff is
really just the administrative body that doesn't have any effective
control over the… you know, there's ten combatant commands all over the
planet that the US has and the Joint Chiefs of Staff don't control any
of those … they report directly to the to the Secretary of Defense and
to the president so the Joint Chiefs of Staff, right, they don't control
either the Air Force Secret Space Program or the Navy Secret Space
Program. Both of those programs, it's people within who have kind of
need to know access in the relevant compartments in the Air Force and in
the Navy who are effectively setting the policy for that. And, you
know, one of the things that William Thompkins says that he was a part
of was that the Navy was using these WEST Meetings … Navy WEST meetings
in the San Diego area every year where they would kind of, you know,
have a lot of ideas… share a lot of brainstorming and that that would
kind of flow into what the Navy planned to do.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Mm-hmm,
okay, yeah. Well thanks for clarifying that because people have made
something of a hero of General Dunford in particular and - for good
reason - he does appear to be a strong leader, you know… a genuine White
Hat Constitutional Patriot and … but, you know, we needed to get that
information out there in terms of the broader scheme of things in terms
of what they actually are in charge of and what they control. Okay,
moving on to… let's get to the bottom of this whole thing with the P2
Freemason Lodge in Italy that we're told controls the Vatican. Now is
that where… is the P2 Freemason Lodge is that where the heads of the
black nobility of the13 bloodline families meet or is it comprised of
actual 33rd degree Freemasons that are not members of the
thirteen bloodline families and act independently of the bloodline families?
COBRA
Actually
this Lodge is just a vehicle for the bloodline families - not the only
one - many of the members do belong to the families but many are just
regular high degree masons that meet and have no idea what's going on
behind the scenes so if you are… for example people who are being… they
are climbing the ladder of freemason hierarchy below … before they reach
32nd level they have no idea there is something sinister at the very
top they have no idea of the infiltration but then they begin to realize
what they were getting themselves into and the P2 Lodge is just one of
the instruments - one of the vehicles - that the real Archon families
use… they have other secret groups also in Rome where they meet more
openly.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay. The 13 bloodline members? The so called descendants of these pre-Adamite giants, right?
COBRA
Yes.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, fair enough. Now are they above or below the Jesuits?
COBRA
The
real Archon families are above the Jesuits… the Jesuit organization is
one of their creations, like the Inquisition was one of their creations,
like Knights of Malta are their creation, for example.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
I see. Understood. Thanks for that clarity. Committee of 200…. what state are they in now?
COBRA
Again,
this is just one of the parties that organizes the Cabal… like the
Trilateral Commission…. like there are different groups that are
interconnected… and this is how the Cabal networks. They have networks
like you have trade unions, like you have many other networking groups
on the positive side. They have their own networking groups….it’s
not…there is not one single group at the top that controls everything -
it's a network - it's an interconnected network.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay,
fair enough. Okay, moving on. Cory has been saying that the Cabal have
been having trouble using the AI recently to calculate probable
timelines … where they would always cut off positive timelines just
before the planet got on to them through whatever means they had at
their disposal - one of them being false flags. Do either of you have
any recent info about that situation where they influence timeline
selection?
COBRA
They
have had problems with this since 2012. The problems will continue
because they don't understand the Light. They don't really grasp that
Light will be victorious… that this is going to end and they will not be
able to understand until it's over.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay, Michael, do you have anything on that before we move on?
MICHAEL SALLA
Right.
I think it's because we are entering this region of the galaxy where
there's more higher level cosmic rays coming in raising consciousness -
or at least accelerating consciousness where, you know, people depending
on their orientation either become more positive or more negative. That
is probably one of the factors for why this kind of technology isn't
successful as in being able to predict timelines and therefore makes it
harder for the negative groups to be able to anticipate what the … what
the positive changes are coming down.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
And
basically messing with their ability to cut it off from the past, so to
speak, just before the planet goes on to that positive timeline as I
understand it. Okay, now there's been quite a few interesting … let’s
just say … comments, remarks… by, well, for example, David Wilcock and
his recent post … summation of it is that this is the quiet before the
storm, We've got Fulford’s sources and even Trump alluding to saying
that something big is coming up. Julian Assange’s recent tweet releasing
just encryption keys and also Sean Hannity from Fox News saying there's
going to be a major announcement… What is this? Does any of this have
to do with the big Luciferian build up to their most high holiest day
being Halloween and November 4th … and other positive factions trying to
beat them to it by doing something … let’s just say … very significant?
MICHAEL SALLA
There's
different ways of looking at this calm before the storm. I know one of
the things that Trump was briefed on is that that the lower level secret
space program has assembled a lot of its military assets over North
Korea and is prepared to take out their military infrastructure very,
very quickly. I mean, the air war against Iraq took about three weeks to
kind of degrade the air defense system of the Iraqi nation or the Iraqi
military. They’re gonna have to do the same thing to North Korea but
within … in a matter of minutes … and so there … you know, what Trump
was briefed on was kind of like Rods of God technology, Mazer
satellites, kind of like directed energy weapons and other kinds of
advanced weapon systems that he would just obliterate the military
arsenal that North Korea had. But of course - and that would actually be
a way for the secret space program - the lower level - to be revealed -
but of course, you know, that's not really a very desirable way of
doing it. But that's, I think, what Trump meant by this calm before the
storm.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay. Cobra, what do you have about this?
COBRA
Yes,
I would say that many things are being prepared behind the scenes. I'm
not allowed to talk about it - but this autumn will be very interesting,
very dynamic. A lot of things happening, both on the good side and on
the bad side. There will be many surprises. I would just say you need to
stay calm and centered… whatever happens… and be prepared for
everything. And at this point I have to go so I would like to thank all
of you gentlemen for this interesting interview and I wish everybody the
best and… Victory of the Light.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Thank
you very much, Cobra, for your time. We do appreciate it. And let's
just finish off, because this is a great segue into the true power that
we hold without realizing it … without fully grasping it. And that is a
fundamental energetic phenomena of when we travel to the non-physical
planes from our physical bodies - that we actually have a lot more power
then what we would otherwise if we were to, you know, die physically
and then just be on the plasma plane or etheric plane alone. And it's
something that, you know, I've found out through my own experiences, as
well - and the analogy that's been brought up by the late Julien Wells
was how Superman when he left his planet - and as well as some bad guys
in one of those movies the… older ones from the 80s… were chasing after
him and they all came to Earth and they found that they had these
amazing powers, being in a different realm. And I also found out not too
long ago that the critical healing technique of soul fragment retrieval
is something you can only do while you're still in the physical - or
from the physical - and so what I'm trying to get to on that is, you
know, we surface light workers still have massive potential with some
basic training we can learn to project that consciousness out onto the
physical … and out onto the non-physical planes and just really use
what’s innately in us – what’s still under-utilized - which is what the
144,000 reactivation campaign is centered around. So the…. first of all,
Cobra, because you know so much about the non-physical aspects of
things… what do you have to say about that?
COBRA
Yes,
the key to our power is to connect the physical and non-physical to
bring the plan - to bring the Light - which is already existing in the
non-physical through all the planes, piercing the plasma, anchoring into
the physical body, and doing our missions. The 144,000… we were born
with a mission. Each of us has a mission. Do it. Carry it out and we
will be successful - and we will be victorious. Victory of the Light -
and thank you.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Brilliantly said, Cobra, and Michael, any last words?
MICHAEL SALLA
I
feel that our power to collectively manifest the reality of our highest
dreams is becoming something that is within grasp of us as more and
more people embrace the information that has been shared here tonight
and through the internet and videos and so forth discussing all of this
information as more people realize just how fundamentally important it
is to engage with this level of information then we are going to
collectively come together and manifest something that truly is quite
amazing and I'm looking forward to that. And thanks for putting this
show together and getting Cobra to be a part of it.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Yeah.
Well likewise, Michael. Please keep on doing what you're doing and it
was a real pleasure meeting you at the solar eclipse conference in Mount
Shasta… what was it… August 21st? At the full disclosure solar eclipse –
whatever it was called. I kept on forgetting the full title of that
particular conference with Corey Goode. And by all means stay in touch
if you have anything else new… interesting… or any updates. And thanks
again for your time.
MICHAEL SALLA
You’re welcome. Aloha.
THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR
Okay.
Aloha indeed. And that was Michael Salla of Exopolitics Institute -
Exopolitics.org. Micheal if you’re still on the air…just give your
website out. I believe it’s Exopolitics.org – I believe that’s correct –
and of course Cobra’s website - 2012portal.blogspot.com - and folks,
there you go. I promised you it was gonna be a whirlwind of a
discussion and interview and that we were going to ask the biggest
questions and go deep - and indeed we did that - so this is the Unknown
Light Warrior. You’re listening to Ground Crew Command Radio. I'll see
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