Former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and George Shultz were joined at the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday by Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. They all referred to the rising threat of nuclear annihilation through the erosion of international cohesion rather than consolidation.
North Korea
"My immediate concern is if North Korea still possess a miliarity nuclear capability the impact on the proliferation of nuclear weapons might be fundamental, because if North Korea could maintain its capability in the face of opposition by China and the US and disapproval by the rest of the world, other countries will think this is the way for achieving international prominence and gain an upper hand in international disputes," Kissinger told the committee.
Comment: In other words, buttress themselves against U.S. interference in their affairs.
He said the Iranian agreement paradoxically legitimized the emergence of Iran as a nuclear power and the North Korean situation was even more acute "because they are closer to developing weapons than Iran."
"We need to make a distinction between measures that relieve the immediate situation but make the ultimate situation even more severe," Kissinger proffered as a solution, "all the more so because the problem of Iran is just down the road."
Comment: Not a whisper about Israel's illegal nuclear arsenal.
Skirting over how President Ronald Reagan escalated tensions with the USSR with his missile defense system program, Shultz said Reagan thought nuclear weapons were immoral.
"In those days, people seemed to have an appreciation of what would be the result if a nuclear weapon were ever used," Shultz told senators. "I fear people have lost that sense of dread. And now we see everything going in the other direction with nuclear proliferation. The more countries with nuclear weapons, the more likely one is going to go off somewhere."
Shultz's major concern was over unregulated fission material and how easy, once acquired, it was to make a weapon that "can blow up the world."
Reagan's former secretary of state stressed the importance of having a different relationship with Russia, since "after all, Russia and US have the most nuclear weapons to start something."
To deal with proliferation, he said,"we need to put a stop sign in front of Russia and make them come to their senses, and then start working with them."
Comment: Russia has always been willing to work with any partner that respects their interests, but they will not be dictated to. by another country.
For Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, however, the threat of nuclear annihilation was not existential.
"To be an existential threat to annihilate the United States, it occurs to me you have to have the capability and the desire. China has the capability, but does not have the desire - she has too much skin in the game. Russia has the capability but does not have the desire, she prefers to use other methods to undermine the US and Eastern Europe, and Ukraine," Armitage told the committee. "North Korea and Iran, they don't yet have the capability and their desire is unknown. ISIS [Islamic State] and terrorists group have the intention but they don't have the capability. So we have to keep our eye on the ball, and the ball is to keep our peer competitors from becoming our adversaries."
Middle East
For Kissinger, current events in the Middle East represent a disintegration of the international system that has existed since the end of the Second World War.
"Every country is either a combatant or a theater of conflict," Kissinger told the committee. He said the defeat of IS would lead to the question of 'what happens next,' and the concern about who will occupy the territories it once held.
"The Iranian and Russian forces will become dominant and we will see a belt emerging that goes from Tehran to Beirut," said Kissinger, arguing that this "undermines the structure of the region and creates long-term challenges."
Comment: Only for Washington's ability to maintain influence there. The 'structure of the region' is slowly orienting to trade led by China and Russia. Not exactly a recipe for conflict.
US, Russia & China
In Kissinger's view, the dominant element of world politics will be the great power relationships between the US, China and Russia. He said the major questions going forward will be the strategic relationship between these countries vis-a-vis the prospect of peace, and if their values are compatible enough to encourage an agreed-upon legitimacy.
"The balance of power must be maintained," Kissinger said. "This is the key issue in our relationship."
Kissinger said the US needs a cooperative Russia for peace in the world, because of its reach. Russia has a large military and covers 11 time zones with no natural borders.
"I would now look for a way to establish meaningful dialogue with Russia," he said. The major sticking point would be Ukraine, which Kissinger says would be "unwise" to include in NATO, but "it's also impossible to let it exist as a satellite of Russia."
"Ukraine is sort of a the borderland of this conception," said Kissinger, noting that an ideal solution would be to have it politically and economically part of the West, but neutral towards Russia like Finland was during the Cold War.
"The question is if one can think of a military arrangement there that would not be confrontational," he said.
Shultz said that advances in small, smart cheap weapons using nanotechnology and drones "will redefine the battlefield" and could be readily employed by NATO allies.
New tech, old threats
Shultz pointed out that technologies such as Artificial Intelligence (AI), 3D printing, and drones are causing massive changes in the economic and political spheres, and will inevitably change warfare.
"What is happening because of these forces is de-globalization. It is already happening. This is not something for the future," said Shultz. "It is becoming more possible to produce the things you want close to where you are, so the advantages of low labor costs are disappearing."
Such changes he argued would reduce shipping costs, have an impact on energy, and a major impact on low-cost labor.
"It is a revolution in the economy, and has all sorts of security implications," Shultz said.
"Robotics, 3D printing and AI are driving manufacturing and causing a big shift from labor to automation. Robot sales are estimated to reach 400,000 in 2018. Collaborative robots (Colbot) assisting human workers will dramatically increase human productivity."